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Religion: Respect? Ridicule!

Religious denialism

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The moderator of the Western and Southern Cape Synod of the Dutch Reformed Church of South Africa believes in creation. Writing in that Guardian of The Faith Organ, Die Burger – a Cape based Afrikaans daily – the Reverend Dr. Braam Hanekom states[1]: “I believe there is a Creator-God who was involved in the coming into being of the DNA structure of the smallest organism and the arrangement of the finest possible ecological balance imaginable.”

“Good ol’ It’s God ya knows” Creationism. Because, in the words of South African Apartheid leader John Vorster, “thu alternativ is jast too ghastley to kontumplyt.”

Halfway around the world another religious leader – Clifford Goldstein, editor of the Seventh-day Adventist Adult Sabbath School Bible Study Guide – called modern evolutionary theory “ridiculous”[2].

Referring to Plato’s Timaeus and the philosopher’s handling of the “tough question of origins, of creation”, Clifford pontificates: “Yet as ridiculous as Plato’s view of origins may be, it’s still miles ahead of modern evolutionery theory. Plato at least has the direction correct; that is, he had things degenerating, getting worse, winding down…”

“Good ol’ Second Law of Thermodynamics Creationism”!

How on earth can religious leaders expect to be taken seriously when they deny modern scientific fact?

“God”? “Creation”? Just how naïve are Christians? Just how plain ignorant are believers? Frankly, just how stupid exactly are the godsmacked? And by choice, to be sure! Once you believe in “God”… “Thu alternativ is jast too ghastley to kontumplyt.”

[1] Hanekom, Braam. December 12, 2007. Godsdiensperspektief: Wysheid wat in liefde gebore word. Die Burger. 21.

[2] Goldstein, Clifford. April 27, 2006. Unaided Reason. Adventist Review. General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. Silver Spring, MD. 17.

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Written by Nathan Bond

December 12, 2007 at 20:09

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  1. Hugo

    I am generally at two (as in not at one) with a “co-existence compromise”. See my essay Science & Religion.

    Commenting on the article Panenteïsme: In gesprek met Gijs Dingemans by professors Hennie Pieterse en Julian Müller, I said that the problem with panentheism is that it assumes a “God”. Why presume a “God”? There is not a smidgen of evidence for the existence of “God”.

    I have a considerably longer response in Afrikaans and hope to find the energy to translate it soon – translation is a dreaded task.

    Do I equate belief in a Creator-God who was involved in the coming into being of the DNA structure of the smallest organism and the arrangement of the finest possible ecological balance imaginable and evolutionary denialism? Yes, guilty as charged.

    Nathan Bond

    December 16, 2007 at 10:03

  2. Nathan Bond, I’ll try to send you some traffic some time, and hopefully we can have some consciousness-raising dialogue. That would be sweet.

    What I’m wondering is: it seems you are equating belief in a “Creator-God who was involved in the coming into being of the DNA structure of the smallest organism and the arrangement of the finest possible ecological balance imaginable” and evolutionary denialism.

    I consider you a polemicist, taking strong stances on such matters. Fair tactic. I’m wondering if you would be happy with a “co-existence compromise”. I take it your concern is with “supernaturalistic thinking”. How do you feel about a more pantheistic or panentheistic view that embraces science? Still too dangerous? Or “an acceptable improvement”?

    Hugo

    December 15, 2007 at 22:10

  3. dirkvdwest Says:
    December 12, 2007 at 8:41 pm edit

    Goeie punt Nathan ,

    Jy sê – “God”? “Creation”? Just how naïve are Christians? Just how plain ignorant are believers? Frankly, just how stupid exactly are the godsmacked.

    Onderstaande is ‘n uittreksel uit ‘n e-pos wat fundamentalis vandag aan my gestuur het.
    “ HOW STUPID “ – hulle is baie stupid. Ek wou gesê het fokking stupid.!!!!!!!

    To a poor, lost soul,

    The lost soul who spits in the Face of the Holy ONE of Israel – the great “I am”.

    NAME, in Hebraic contend of context, means CHARACTER, of which YOURS speaks for itself!!

    Better REPENT while there IS still time left – eternity is a very long time to suffer the consequences of your own selfish lusts…

    Nathan Bond

    December 12, 2007 at 21:12


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