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“Pous” is beskaam; berouvol

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Joey sit die pot mis

21 Maart 2010. Joey Ratzinger, die bejaarde Duitse hoof van Kindernaai Internasionaal, in die volksmond bekend as die Katoolse Kerk – sy kornuite noem hom “Pous”, of “heilige vader” (Godsk!) – sê hy is baie jammer dat sy priesters kinders seksueel gemolesteer het in Ierland. (Klik hier vir een van vele berigte.)

Dít terwyl klagtes dat Ratzinger nie veel gedoen het om soortgelyke vergrype te verhoed terwyl hy “aartsbiskop” van München (1977-1982) was nie. (Klik hier vir een van vele berigte.)

Maar die katolieke kerk – in sy breedste vorm – gaan onversteurd voort om kinders te molesteer met idiotiese gogga maak vir baba bang bogstories oor gode en duiwels.

Richard Dawkins haal ‘n Amerikaanse vrou in haar veertigerjare aan wat as kind die Katolieke Kerk moes bywoon: “Being fondled by the priest simply left the impression (from the mind of a 7-year-old) as ‘yucky’ while the memory of my friend going to hell was one of cold, immeasurable fear. I never lost sleep because of the priest — but I spent many a night being terrified that the people I loved would go to Hell. It gave me nightmares.” (The God Delusion, hoofstuk 9.)

Kinders kan fisiese molestering nog verwerk; die verdomming van geloof bly mense egter tot die graf by.

Ratzinger kan op eiers dans tot die hoenders in die agterplaas opdaag om met aggressiewe oorgawe te broei; georganiseerde – en informele – Geloof se walglike invloed benadeel mense elke oomblik van elke dag.

Die bewyse vir hierdie breë stelling kan in elke essay en elke bydrae op hierdie blog gesien word.

Kerke kan vertrou word. (Kerke is gesetel in absolute leuenagtigheid.)

Islam staan vir vrede. (Islam, soos elke denominasie en vertakking van “Geloof” is per definisie eksklusief, met ál die walglike noodwendige implikasies.)

Die tandemuis lééf en werk vir Dstv in bemarking. (Is! Sy naam is Gary en hy maak ads vir sateliet tiewie!)

Godsdiens moet gaan!

(Sien ook die inskrywing van 21 Mei 2009 – Irish Catholic Child-fucking.)

Written by Nathan Bond

March 21, 2010 at 05:16

Posted in Religion must go!

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  1. Great song, a tribute to the pope.

    McBrolloks

    May 20, 2010 at 01:32

  2. Hans, ek weet jy’s vars uit verskonings en stories uit. Maar traai tog ’n bietjie om sin te maak. Toe.

    Con-Tester

    May 19, 2010 at 21:10

  3. Con-Tester, ek het jou reeds geantwoord dus het ek niks verder hieroor te sê.

    Hans Matthysen

    May 19, 2010 at 20:44

  4. Nog ’n lekker ontduikpogings, Hans! Vir die vierde keer nou, Hans: Wáár is daai vele mense wat van sleg na goed toe verander is deur geloof? Daai mense wat onbetwisbaar deur geloof verander is van duiwels na engele? Wíé is dááí mense, Hans? Wys hulle vir my, toe!

    En daai 400+ weerprekings? Kry vir jou want ek’s nog min beïndruk.

    Con-Tester

    May 14, 2010 at 11:17

  5. DW, wie dink jy het Jesus en Sy dissipels vervolg?

    Hans Matthysen

    May 14, 2010 at 10:55

  6. ErickV, jy het vasgehak, shame!

    Hans Matthysen

    May 14, 2010 at 10:46

  7. Screw-tin-eyes, al “Pappa” in die lug is die “Woord” wat een spreek, wat dan deur die lug, na ‘n aanhoorder toe oorgaan en verstaanbaarheid (lig) en waarheid bring.

    Hans Matthysen

    May 14, 2010 at 10:45

  8. Con-Tester, ek ken baie en dit wil voorkom of jy nogal onkundig van wat om jou aangaan.

    Hans Matthysen

    May 14, 2010 at 10:38

  9. McBrolloks, the “Word” is the seed of the Sower and not all accept this Truth, some by way of birth. Maybe they grew up as Buddhists or Muslims? Some where changed by man, perhaps they became Atheists and then their are those who will not leave their church denomination for the Truth.
    Wanneer ons die Bybel lees moet ons met ‘n geestelike insig daarna kyk.

    Hans Matthysen

    May 14, 2010 at 10:36

  10. McBrolloks, when you read Deuteronomy 23:2, you appear to be carnally minded and therefore you are missing the point. Maybe the following will make the message clearer for you:
    Rev 3:15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
    Rev 3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spew thee out of my mouth.

    Hans Matthysen

    May 14, 2010 at 10:16

  11. Hans skryf ;die RKK het die Christendom gekaap met die vervolging van Jesus en die Apostels.

    Nee Hans , antwoord wat jy hier geskryf het.
    Waar het die RKK vir Jesus vervolg – Bronne asb.

    DW

    May 7, 2010 at 09:04

  12. Wat is daardie “kerk”/sekte se naam, Hans?

    ErickV

    May 7, 2010 at 05:43

  13. Hans skryf: “Screw-tin-eyes, die Bybel bots nie met die Wetenskap nie.”
    🙂🙂🙂

    Dit is mense wat nie weet waaroor die Bybel werklik gaan.

    Die Bybel gaan op sy beste oor ‘n paar historiese feite, hier en daar, maar verder is dit mites. Stories, Hans, wat die mense van daardie tyd opgemaak het om die mense te beheer.

    Hoe kon jy afsien van vader krismis, die tandemuis en watookal, maar jy bly klou aan hierdie mitiese pappa in die lug. Sotlik.

    screw-tin-eyes

    May 7, 2010 at 03:14

  14. Lekker ontduikpogings, Hans! Vir die derde keer nou, Hans: Wáár is daai vele mense wat van sleg na goed toe verander is deur geloof? Daai mense wat onbetwisbaar deur geloof verander is van duiwels na engele? Wíé is dááí mense, Hans? Wys hulle vir my, toe!

    En daai 400+ weerprekings? Kry vir jou want ek’s nog min beïndruk.

    Con-Tester

    May 7, 2010 at 00:00

  15. Hans, hoe moet ek die bybel opneem as ek sulke waglike goed daarin lees?

    McBrolloks

    May 6, 2010 at 22:37

  16. Become a Eunuch for God

    For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. (Matthew 19:12 ASV)

    Ouch!!!!!!! Hoop nie julle vat julle bybel nou te letterlik op nie manne!!!!!

    McBrolloks

    May 6, 2010 at 22:36

  17. God Discriminates Against the Handicapped

    No one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut off may be admitted into the community of the Lord. (Deuteronomy 23:2 NAB)

    Poor bastards!!!!!!!

    McBrolloks

    May 6, 2010 at 22:35

  18. Screw-tin-eyes, die Bybel bots nie met die Wetenskap nie. Dit is mense wat nie weet waaroor die Bybel werklik gaan.

    Hans Matthysen

    May 6, 2010 at 22:33

  19. DW, die Jode saam met die Romeine het Jesus en Sy volgelinge vervolg, geen vryheid van geloof aangekondig en daaruit het die RKK ontstaan.

    Hans Matthysen

    May 6, 2010 at 22:28

  20. ErickV, gaan lees maar in die Bybel, hoe Jesus en sy volgelinge, God se Kerk tot stand gebring het.

    Hans Matthysen

    May 6, 2010 at 22:24

  21. Con-Tester, ek ken nou nie die mense in jou omgewing nie en tog het ek al baie mens gesien verander a.g.v. hulle geloof. Miskien moet jy maar net meer na jou medemens oplet. Sou jy pastorale werk gedoen het, sou jy geweet het waarvan ek praat. Een wat net vir dieself lewe, sal salig onbewus wees van ander se opheffing uit die modderslyk van hul lewe.

    Hans Matthysen

    May 6, 2010 at 22:20

  22. Ons weet mos dat as die feite tussen die Bybel en die Wetenskap verskil, dan is dit die wetenskap wat ‘n fout gemaak het, of hulle waarneming en feite misinterpreteer 🙂

    Vat maar vir Johannes, wat steeds glo die ark is ‘n werklikheid.

    screw-tin-eyes

    May 5, 2010 at 16:09

  23. Simple. You choose what you want to be true, then you discard any evidence that does not comply with your version of events and answers.

    McBrolloks

    May 3, 2010 at 18:54

  24. I thought the Shroud of Turin was dated to have been weaved in the 1300s. But with these god bots scientific dating techniques are of course rejected. What I can’t understand is that when scientists say something is older than 6000 years, the god bots cry foul. But when they date something to be younger than what the god bots claim, the scientists are wrong again. Someone must one day explain to me how god-bot-science works.

    Savage

    May 3, 2010 at 18:03

  25. Pope Prays in Front Of Shroud of Turin

    http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/religion/Pope-Benedict-to-Visit-the-Shroud-of-Turin-92620629.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    The skidmarks left by jesus, allegedly.

    “Pope Benedict XVI took a break Sunday from dealing with the clerical sex abuse scandal rocking the Catholic Church to pray before the Shroud of Turin. The linen carries the unexplained image of a crucified man on it and Christians believe it is the burial cloth of Jesus.”

    “Pope Benedict said the image represents the passion of the man of every time and every place, with his sufferings, difficulties and sins. If thousands and thousands of people venerate the shroud, he said, it is because in it they see not only darkness but also light, not only the defeat of life and love, but also the victory of life over death.”

    Woo-woo!!!!!!!!!

    McBrolloks

    May 3, 2010 at 16:41

  26. Another one bites the dust.

    Now to think that all the biggest child rape protectors and peadophiles are all at that funeral today. I hope the cops have a special alert out in the area, warning parents and schools of all the sexual predators who are legally luring in their area.

    And on a lighter note, the Pope will be blessing a sheet that allegedly has jesus’ skid-marks on it. Talk about holy-shit!!!!

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/benedictine_cardinal_passes_away_at_98/

    McBrolloks

    May 3, 2010 at 15:12

  27. PZ Myers is really (like most of us here) tolerating nothing from the RCC:

    “We’re supposed to call him “Most Reverend” — priests are really good at attaching laudatory titles to themselves — but I won’t be doing that, ever. “Most Intolerant,” maybe, or “Most Boneheaded”.

    Bonehead? Good description.

    Savage

    April 30, 2010 at 18:41

  28. Erick, alhowel ek wens jy is reg oor dat Hans spot, twyfel ek. Die onnoselheid, bekakte redenasie en vervelige herhaling is net te eg om voorgee te wees. Nogtans is dit moontlik ― seker met die rook van genoeg gedroogde bokdrolle…

    Con-Tester

    April 30, 2010 at 14:15

  29. CT, ek dink eerder dat Hans ‘n snotneus dwaas is wat probeer om die sinvolle gebruikers van hiedie blog die spot mee te dryf. Geen nugtere mens met verstand kan die kak van Hans kwytraak nie. Ek wonder net wat se stront hy rook. Seker dieselfde as dit wat die herders in die bybel gerook het toe hulle al die drogbeelde/verbeeldingsvlugte gedroom het. Ek dink dit was opium.

    ErickV

    April 30, 2010 at 12:21

  30. ErickV skryf (April 29, 2010 om 05:38):

    My fok, kan jy nie ‘n reguit vraag beantwoord nie!

    Nee. Hans het dit tot nou toe nog nie gedoen nie, so hoekom verwag jy dat hy sy benadering skielik gaan verander?

    Con-Tester

    April 29, 2010 at 08:34

  31. Hans skryf ;die RKK het die Christendom gekaap met die vervolging van Jesus en die Apostels.

    Hans ek vistaaaaan nie wat jy hier skryf nie.
    Gee asb bronne om jou stelling te staaf.

    DW

    April 29, 2010 at 08:19

  32. Hans
    Ek vra weer: Watter kerk is “god se kerk”?
    My fok, kan jy nie ‘n reguit vraag beantwoord nie!

    ErickV

    April 29, 2010 at 05:38

  33. Hans, jy praat weereens kak. My medemense het nie van sleg tot goed toe verander nie as gevolg van geloof. Hulle is wat hulle is a.g.v. hulle opvoeding en gemeenskaplikheid. So ek vra jou weer: Wáár is daai vele mense wat van sleg na goed toe verander is deur geloof? Daai mense wat onbetwisbaar deur geloof verander is van duiwels na engele? Wíé is dááí mense, Hans? Wys hulle vir my, toe!

    Hans, hier’s daai weersprekings vir jou. Weereens.

    Con-Tester

    April 28, 2010 at 22:29

  34. ErickV, die RKK het die Christendom gekaap met die vervolging van Jesus en die Apostels. Die ware vingerd se lote, het weer, na ‘n lang tyd van droogte, uitgeloop.
    Hand. 24:14 Maar dit erken ek voor u dat ek volgens die Weg wat hulle sekte noem, so die God van my vaders dien, terwyl ek alles glo wat in die wet en in die profete geskrywe is,

    Hans Matthysen

    April 28, 2010 at 22:27

  35. Con-Tester, bring jou sogenaamde weersprekings een vir een.

    Hans Matthysen

    April 28, 2010 at 22:19

  36. Con-Tester, kyk om jou en praat met jou mede mens. Moet hulle nie aanval nie en baie sal vir jou kan sê hoe hulle lewe verbeter het.

    Hans Matthysen

    April 28, 2010 at 22:18

  37. Hans
    Ek is nou nie breinloos nie maar het net twee breinselle waarvan een twyfelagtig is.
    Nou wil ek net graag van jou weet watter kerk “god”
    se kerk is?(daar is 40,000 geregistreerde denominasie/kerke in die wereld).
    Sover my bietjie kennis strek, is die RKK die oorsprong van alla christen gelowe. Nou ja, ek kan vekeerd wees en jy is reg met jou skewe siening.
    Ai, die breinselle tog!

    ErickV

    April 21, 2010 at 08:14

  38. From PZ’s blog.

    Those naughty Germans

    http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/04/those_naughty_germans.php

    The German press is not holding back at all.

    McBrolloks

    April 20, 2010 at 21:51

  39. Hans, show us your brains by attending to 400+ contradictions in your so-called “holy” book, as requested several times already. Why do you keep avoiding what should be an easy thing for someone of your deep insights? Please explain this avoidance thing you’re doing. Thanks.

    Con-Tester

    April 19, 2010 at 22:17

  40. McBrolloks, I agree that the perpetrators should be prosecuted but you are irrational in your thinking by blaming all Catholics.

    Hans Matthysen

    April 19, 2010 at 22:15

  41. ErickV, the RCC has never been Gods church and I have made that quite clear, on previous occasions, on this blog. The verse I quoted for Con-Tester also confirms that. You may not be brainless, yet it would help, should you use yours.

    Hans Matthysen

    April 19, 2010 at 22:11

  42. Waar, Hans? Wáár is daai vele mense wat van sleg na goed toe verander is deur geloof? Daai mense wat onbetwisbaar deur geloof verander is van duiwels na engele? Wíé is dááí mense, Hans? Wys hulle vir my, toe!

    Con-Tester

    April 19, 2010 at 22:08

  43. Screw-tin-eyes, na aanleiding wat ek vir Con-Tester geskryf het, sal jy seker kan uitmaak wat my antwoord sal wees.

    Hans Matthysen

    April 19, 2010 at 22:00

  44. Con-Tester, geloof het al baie mense verander, van sleg na goed en maak dus in baie gevalle ‘n verskil.
    Sien jy nou hoekom ek nie ‘n voorstaander is van Gay Predekante/Pastore/Priesters. (1 Tit. 3:2 ‘n Opsiener dan moet onberispelik wees, die man van een vrou, nugter, ingetoë, fatsoenlik, gasvry, bekwaam om te onderrig;)

    Hans Matthysen

    April 19, 2010 at 21:49

  45. Then again, nothing the RCC says will surprise me at all.

    McBrolloks

    April 19, 2010 at 21:14

  46. Ha-ha!!!!!!!!!!!

    Pope Vows To Get Church Pedophilia Down To Acceptable Levels

    This was from The Onion.

    http://www.theonion.com/articles/pope-vows-to-get-church-pedophilia-down-to-accepta,17201/

    McBrolloks

    April 19, 2010 at 21:13

  47. This is sooooooooo outrages. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    VATICAN CITY

    Calling the behavior shameful, sinful, and much more frequent than the Vatican was comfortable with, Pope Benedict XVI vowed this week to bring the widespread pedophilia within the Roman Catholic Church down to a more manageable level. Addressing thousands gathered at St. Peter’s Square on Easter Sunday, the pontiff offered his “most humble apologies” to abuse victims, and pledged to reduce the total number of molestations by 60 percent over the next five years.
    “This is absolutely unacceptable,” Pope Benedict said. “It seems a weakening of faith in God has prevented our priests from exercising moderation when sexually abusing helpless minors.”

    “The truth is there will always be a little bit of molestation—it’s simply unavoidable,” Vatican spokesperson Rev. Federico Lombardi said. “But the fact that young boys have gotten much more attractive over the past few decades is no excuse for the blatant defiance of church limits that have been in place for centuries.”

    “The majority of priests don’t want to molest kids at all,” he added. “But for those who do, we must make sure they’re doing it at a reasonable rate.”

    McBrolloks

    April 19, 2010 at 21:11

  48. Ha-ha, not according to themselves. Ha-ha. But what’s new?

    McBrolloks

    April 18, 2010 at 10:29

  49. The pope and his minions are the dark cloud hanging over most of Europe.

    defollyant

    April 18, 2010 at 10:22

  50. But if the next pope is an avid golfer, that would totally explain “global warming”.

    McBrolloks

    April 18, 2010 at 09:39

  51. Good thing the pope does not play golf. The poor farmers who live in the areas he visits. They would not get any rain when he was around. Forrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!

    McBrolloks

    April 18, 2010 at 09:32

  52. But then again, he is busy, and this is still only speculation, with making a deal with Satan once again, to help him out with this little problem.**

    **This is purely speculation, as we can not officially confirm the reports we have been receiving. This information came from an undercover source, and we can not back up the validity of this intel.**

    McBrolloks

    April 18, 2010 at 09:25

  53. The pope did have this to say:

    “The pope’s short meetings with the media on such flights are the only times he speaks directly to the Vatican press corps, whose members were clearly disappointed by his decision not to address the abuse issue directly

    But he did directly mention another issue of concern, the spreading ash cloud from Iceland that has closed airports across northern Europe and northern Italy but has not affected Rome.

    “Let’s hope for a good trip with this dark cloud that is over part of Europe,” he said. Air Malta has said it expected to be able to fly him back to Rome on Sunday as planned.”

    – Reuters

    More upset about a volcanic eruption than the scandal he has to deal with.

    McBrolloks

    April 18, 2010 at 09:22

  54. Pope: Church ‘wounded by our sins’

    http://www.news24.com/World/News/Pope-Church-wounded-by-our-sins-20100417

    Oh, fuck me!!!!!! It’s the poor church who are the ones who got hurt in this one. Don’t call it a self inflicted wound when you are sticking your own bayonet into others, repeatedly, over and over again, all across the board and the globe.

    And how the fuck do you stand up and defend the rape of children?

    Only a true cunt can do that.

    How do you make the organization that still protect the rapists of children today look like the victims.

    Fucking hell!!!!!!!!

    I must be missing something here. I must be.

    McBrolloks

    April 18, 2010 at 09:12

  55. HuffPo: arrest Richard Dawkins

    Rory Fitzgerald’s latest rant piece at The Huffington Post is called “Richard Dawkins should be arrested for covering up atheist crimes.” It is, of course, a response to Dawkins’s and Hitchens’s call for legal action against the Pope if His Holiness sets foot in the UK. Fitzgerald, an Irish journalist, calls himself a “lapsed atheist.”

    http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2010/04/17/huffpo-arrest-richard-dawkins/

    McBrolloks

    April 17, 2010 at 17:15

  56. NCA bishop in KZN accused of sexual harassment. It seems that the cookie jar is just too hard to resist for these icons of self-discipline and morality…

    Con-Tester

    April 16, 2010 at 15:00

  57. ErickV

    April 15, 2010 at 05:35

  58. McBrolloks

    April 14, 2010 at 19:25

  59. The Vatican does an about-face, and almost falls over its own feet, which happened to be, as usual, in its mouth at the time…

    Con-Tester

    April 14, 2010 at 16:12

  60. McBrolloks

    April 12, 2010 at 14:37

  61. A while ago I mentioned on McBrolloks website and somewhere else on this blog to Brainless Hans, that religion is the root of all evil. Now Hans gave me his usual “brainy” comment but on McBrolloks site a certain moron found my input “amusing”.
    I now wonder whether my opinion is still ridiculous after all what happened in the RCC?
    Is’nt the RCC the root of all christianity?
    Is’nt all other denominations as result of the RCC?
    Is’nt the muslim religion just as evil?

    ErickV

    April 12, 2010 at 13:41

  62. I think what is the most disturbing and frustrating, is the fact that the religious fraternity seems to cover for each other, no matter what the crime. Even a jewish friend writing to the Vatican, who likens the reaction and actions by the world to the sex scandals of the RCC to anti-semitism.

    I am too stupid to see this, so someone can please explain what this ‘jewish friend’ wants to say. The Jewish people were the victims of a lunatic dictator – the RCC priests are by no stretch of the imagination victims, they are the perpetrators and the destroyers of innocence. Do they want special treatment when they are accused by their victims and the media shouting it out in no uncertain terms.

    Evil, religious demagogs – all of the RCC, top to bottom in my book – who know how to play their gullible followers. Makes me sick to the stomach. I think this time they may be running out of escape routes.

    screw-tin-eyes

    April 11, 2010 at 08:38

  63. Pope Pius XII

    http://one-evil.org/people/people_20c_Pius_XII.htm

    “The second major campaign coordinated by Pope Pius XII began largely in 1944 with the even greater resources devoted to the forging of new identities for tens of thousands of Officials from Catholic Regimes responsible for mass murder including Nazis, Italians, Romanians, Croatian officials and many of the “Most Wanted” from these regimes.

    The Allies names this second phase of the Vatican assistance under Pope Pius XII “the Rat Lines” and many tens of thousand of mass murderers stayed in the very facilities, that a few years prior had housed thousands of Rabbi and Jewish officials.”

    McBrolloks

    April 11, 2010 at 04:30

  64. Didn’t pope Pius XII bless a squadron of Italian war planes just before they took of on a mission to go and bomb civilian villages in Ethiopia? As far as I have researched pope Pius XII, he was a really big arsehole. His silence during the holocaust was terrible. But of course, the new NAZI pope is coming to his aid. He just put him on the fast rack to heaven, sainthood and all the other good perks that comes with having friends in high, sorry, I mean low, places.

    McBrolloks

    April 11, 2010 at 04:11

  65. From Embattled Pope, Praise for a Predecessor

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/11/world/europe/11pope.html?hp

    One NAZI pope praising the actions of another NAZI pope. Priceless.

    McBrolloks

    April 11, 2010 at 04:01

  66. “The Pope is facing allegations he was responsible for delaying Church action against a paedophile priest – the first time he has been accused so directly.”

    From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8612457.stm via PZ’s blog.

    I wonder if there will ever be a noose around ol’ Ratzi’s neck and if someone will tighten it?

    Savage

    April 10, 2010 at 04:52

  67. … and now Norway, too.

    Con-Tester

    April 7, 2010 at 19:27

  68. Van McBrolloks se link: Ek het baie van die donker dae van die Antichris op skool gehoor, wat sou aandui dat die wederkoms naby is, min wetende dat as so iets moes bestaan, jy maar net na die RKK kon kyk.

    Sjoe, maar hierdie klomp mense is darem maar evil verby!

    Savage

    April 7, 2010 at 15:03

  69. The “Pedophile’s Paradise”
    Alaska Natives are accusing the Catholic Church of using their remote villages as a “dumping ground” for child-molesting priests—and blaming the president of Seattle University for letting it happen.

    http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/the-pedophiles-paradise/Content?oid=1065017

    McBrolloks

    April 7, 2010 at 00:54

  70. US Lawyer files motion to obtain sworn deposition from Pope re child abuse cover-ups. I doubt this will succeed, but it’s certainly a valiant and timely initiative.

    Con-Tester

    April 6, 2010 at 13:23

  71. Another cover-up by Benny Dick, while the controversy rages on. This time Ratzi’s personal preacher puts all available foot-like appendages in his mouth (more here), provoking another sidestep shimmy by the RCC. How is it possible that this bastion of, er, um, morality (i.e. the RCC) is so obtusely incapable of recognising the egregious immorality of their collective actions and responsibility? No doubt something to do with their “Higher Calling,” and never mind how many lives they ruin getting there.

    Con-Tester

    April 4, 2010 at 11:31

  72. Hans, sal jy jou kind ‘n altaar knapie laar word ?? En hierdie vraag verg net ‘n Ja of ‘n Nee.

    screw-tin-eyes

    April 1, 2010 at 06:04

  73. Dit is net deel 1 van 5 dele, die kerk kak 6-0 af in hierdie debat.

    McBrolloks

    March 31, 2010 at 23:23

  74. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha……………..

    Groot asem…………..

    Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha……………..

    Waar is die goed in die meerderheid in die Katolieke Kerk??????

    Kyk gerus na hierdie gesprek, oor presies hierdie onderwerp:

    The Intelligence Squared Debate, Christopher Hitchens and Stephen Fry vs The Catholics

    McBrolloks

    March 31, 2010 at 23:22

  75. Hans Matthysen skryf (Maart 31, 2010 om 10:02 nm.):

    [D]aar [is] meer goeie mense [in die RKK], as slegte mense.

    Dieselfde geld natuurlik ook vir die mensdom algeheel, so geloof maak dan niks verskil aan mense se goedheid nie.

    Con-Tester

    March 31, 2010 at 23:04

  76. Ek wil darem sê, dat ek nie ‘n voordtaander van die Katoliekekerk is nie en tog moet ek erken, dat daar meer goeie mense daar is, as slegte mense.

    Hans Matthysen

    March 31, 2010 at 22:02

  77. What an evil bastard.

    http://www.slate.com/id/2249130/

    Savage

    March 31, 2010 at 08:54

  78. Shocking. Ratzinger protected rapists. He let them have their “dignity”, and he shielded them from the law.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/world/europe/25vatican.html?hp

    McBrolloks

    March 25, 2010 at 15:45

  79. Hans skryf March 22, 2010 at 6:19 pm:
    “As een in ‘n groep ‘n vrot appel is, beteken dit nie dat almal vrot is nie. Mens sou dink dat belese mense soos julle dit sou besef. Dit is goed dat die Pous nie die saak onder die mat probeer vee, soos wat dikwils in die verlede die geval was. Ek is nie ‘n voorstaander van die Katolieke nie.”

    Deur hierdie kort paragraaf het jy nou self bewys dat:
    -Jy blind is vir dinge wat jy nie wil sien nie en dit afmaak as ‘minor’ terwyl daar ‘n stortvloed van aanklagte is – kry jy nie skaam nie.
    -Logika en ‘common sense’ ontbreek by jou.
    -Dat Katolieke dieselfde God as jy aanbid – jy weet dit, reg ?
    -Jy nie wil besef dat as God regtig magtig is, hy hierdie kinders sal beskerm.

    Hoe Hans, rasionaliseer jy dit, sodat jy steeds jou God kan aanbid en hom vertrou. Hoe, Hans, Hoe ???

    screw-tin-eyes

    March 25, 2010 at 06:37

  80. Savage wrote (March 24, 2010 at 5:25 pm):

    Do we really have a gene that hampers us to rational thought, or is it all indoctrination?

    Overwhelmingly indoctrination, I think. Neuroscience has increasingly shown that thinking patterns are to an appreciable extent habitual. That is, we engage in many of our common behaviours without paying close attention to our actions, and much of our day-to-day thinking is also done without sharp scrutiny or supervision by the mind’s eye. God-belief is just a bad habit like smoking, albeit one acquired from a very young age, and at least as hard to kick. Jesuits have a saying, possibly even from their founder Ignatius of Loyola, that goes, “Give me a child before seven and I have him for life.” It clearly shows that these religious busybodies have had an appreciation for a long time already of the importance of raping the uncritical minds of children as early as possible. Martin Luther himself referred to reason as “the Devil’s greatest whore,” adding a litany of scabrous descriptives, also intimating that critical thought is inimical to faith.

    Con-Tester

    March 24, 2010 at 19:55

  81. Thanks, Con-Tester. Your previous links to “Religion” were eye-opening. Shit, it boggles the mind. Something, somewhere, is terribly wrong. How could we see things so totally different from the religiose? Is evolution so apparent? Do we really have a gene that hampers us to rational thought, or is it all indoctrination?

    Savage

    March 24, 2010 at 17:25

  82. Dalk is dit weer tyd dat ek vir die foking pous ‘n email stuur.

    Maar hy is net soos Johannes ; het nie die guts om terug te skryf nie.

    DW

    March 24, 2010 at 10:49

  83. Savage wrote (March 24, 2010 at 7:52 am):

    If the RCC really believed in a judgement day and an afterlife, how on earth could they carry on with raping children and then cover it up?

    Two reasons, really. First, the RCC’s position is that confession and absolution of sins – by means of a cassocked woo-meister who supposedly is a conduit to their god via their pope – gives you a clean slate until the next time you rape a child. Second, the RCC’s position is that child rape isn’t as serious a sin as, say, entertaining lustful thoughts about the latest Hollywood sex-bomb.

    It’s just one more measure of their repugnant hidebound depravity.

    Savage wrote (March 24, 2010 at 7:52 am):

    And if governments profess to underwrite the divinity of the Christian religion through Jesus Christ’s teachings, how the fuck do they allow these bastards to get away with these horrible offenses?

    The RCC’s position is that ordinary secular people, including government and state officials are simply too ignorant on theological matters to read and interpret Scripture and other “holy” texts. The RCC reserves for itself these task and on producing doctrine at the very highest levels of its hierarchy, i.e. bishops, cardinals and the Pope who is considered the embodiment of their god on earth and who has veto and final say on such matters. Remember, on the day the RCC vigorously opposed both bible translations into common languages and its printing by Gutenberg. All of this is to say that the RCC insinuated itself into state affairs wherever it could in an ostensibly indispensable spiritual role, but in reality to protect its own vast secular interests. This was mostly in Europe, and to this day the RCC retains its status as both a social and effectively political institution there, though they would deny the latter function. Consequently, there is still an entrenched mentality in much of Europe that the RCC can do no wrong (because it has lied and cheated and connived its way into that perception) and so people are loath to conflate the misdeeds of its representatives with a rottenness pervading the institution as a whole, which is what prosecution would appear to suggest.

    Fortunately, the wheel does seem to be turning, albeit slowly.

    Con-Tester

    March 24, 2010 at 09:09

  84. “But what staggers me is once again the immediate, visceral circling of the wagons – when what is being revealed – again! – is a pattern of criminal abuse, aided and abetted by a powerful elite, led by the Pope himself. If this were a secular institution, the police would move in and shut it down.”

    From Andrew Sullivan in the Atlantic.

    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/03/the-current-vaticans-death-throes-i.html

    Yes, shut it down.

    Savage

    March 24, 2010 at 08:19

  85. I remember when my young children and I watched the video, “The Dark Cristal.” Reading about the centuries old culture of the RCC, I cannot help but think back of the evil Skeksis in the movie. The pope and his cardinals resemble the dark culture of those creatures. If the RCC really believed in a judgement day and an afterlife, how on earth could they carry on with raping children and then cover it up? And if governments profess to underwrite the divinity of the Christian religion through Jesus Christ’s teachings, how the fuck do they allow these bastards to get away with these horrible offenses?

    Savage

    March 24, 2010 at 07:52

  86. http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/f171912edbd34b478afdf32f411a7b15/23-03-2010-05-04/New_German_clergy_abuse_charges

    Dit lyk of Joey en Kie ‘noch mehr Dreck am Stecken hat’ as wat ons tot nou toe gesien het.

    Geen einde in sig. Hoop daar kom nog meer uit met hulle storie. Ek hoop dit is ‘n Tsunami wat die hele spul van die RKK gaan wegspoel.

    screw-tin-eyes

    March 23, 2010 at 18:24

  87. The essence of the RCC’s problems stems from a 17-century legacy of papal infallibility concerning hermeneutics and doctrine. Unlike Protestants, they have a history to consider and don’t get to make it up as they go along. I’m still undecided about which is worse.

    Con-Tester

    March 22, 2010 at 21:24

  88. Ek het in Mei 2005 ‘n mening oor Joey Ratzinger se pousskap gegee (klik hier) en die verrassende verwagtinge van Afrikaans-sprekende Suid-Afrikaners uitgewys. In Januarie 2009 het Johann Symington, ‘n bekende NG pastor, rooi rose se lesers om verskoning gevra oor hy Ratzinger in sy November 2008-rubriek in dié vrouetydskrif moontlik te na sou gekom het – klik hier.

    Ek het vir Ratzinger en sy organisasie nie ‘n greintjie respek nie.

    Die Rooms Katolieke Kerk is ‘n gesetel in ‘n derdeparty weergawe van ‘n woordspeling van ‘n sjamaan wat bykans 2000 jaar gelede uit Galilea gekom het. (“En Ek sê ook vir jou: Jy is Petrus, en op hierdie rots sal Ek my gemeente bou…” Mattheüs xvi.xvii)

    Die Rooms Katolieke leringe is idioties: Die verskillende helle (Limbus Patrum en Limbus Infantum*) en transubstansiasie – die leer dat die biskuitjie en die wyntjie tydens nagmaal werklik regtig-egtig die vleis en bloed van die “herrese” sjamaan word, om maar net twee verstandsverstommende en gemoedsbekakkende waansinnighede te noem, is kinderagtig belaglik.

    Die Rooms Katolieke sosiale voorskrifte is verregaande en druis lynreg in teen algemeen aanvaarbare rasionalitiet: geen geboortebeperking; geen kondome teen die HI Virus nie; geen seks sonder die intensie om voort te plant nie; geen seks vir priesters en nonne nie.

    Die Rooms Katolieke se morele en etiese besluitneming is verkakkend boos: dit is volgens Ratzinger se walglike standaarde erger om die nagmaalbeskuitjie uit te spoeg as om ‘n kind te verkrag – klik hier; die pouse se verhouding met die Nazi’s en hulle ideologie is om van moordadig te wil raak – klik hier.

    Die fôkkin “pous” behoort opgesluit te word en in sy geval sal ek my absolute teenkanting van die doodstraf afsweer.

    Die pous is ‘n Franse kortverhaal.

    * Die Spaanse Conquistadors wat Mexiko en Peru gekersten het, het babas gedoop en dan hulle koppies teen die rotse stukkend geslaan sodat die bloedjies nie sal sondig en die ewige lewe misloop nie – water op die koppie, kluite op die koppie… ‘n kroon van ewige heerlikheid op die koppie. In daardie volgorde.

    Hierdie beleid was ‘n bietjie te ekstreem – selfs vir Christene – en het uitgesterf, by wyse van spreke. Maar die probleem was steeds dat sommige babas gesterf het vóórdat hulle gedoop kon word – en die agtergeblewenes moes dan met die wete saamleef dat hierdie bloedjies vir ewig in die helse vuur moes brand. En – selfs vir Christene – was dit darem te erg vir woorde. Maar wat, as ‘n teologiese konsep nie werk nie, dan maak ‘n mens nóg ‘n konsep om die lug te suiwer, weereens by wyse van spreke. Jy kan nie ‘n teoloog in ‘n hoek vasverf nie – dis net een groot sprong, dan’s hy los.

    Die Katolieke kom toe met ‘n briljantjie vorendag: Die Limbus Infantum. Dit is opgerig as een van twee woonbuurtes neffens downtown Hades. Die ander een was die Limbus Patrum, waar Ou Testamentiese heiliges moes wag totdat die verese Christus – ek maak nie hierdie snert op nie – hulle kom haal het. Maar terug by die Limbus Infantum. O, ja – daar’s nog die Vagevuur, maar dis ‘n ander storie. Die Limbus Infantum is ‘n helse hemel, of ‘n hemelse hel, waar ongedoopte babatjies, kinders van ouers wat glo, maar nie gou genoeg by ‘n put kon uitkom nie, en kinders van ouers wat nie van beter weet nie, en kinders van ouers soos ek, wat gewoon verbyster is, vir ewig en altyd moet bly. Hulle kan die vlamme van die hel sien, maar brand nie. Hulle kan die hitte voel, maar sweet nie. Hulle kan hulle bose mammies en pappies sien brand, maar ervaar self geen “pain of sense” nie.

    Wie kan sulke snert glo?

    Nathan Bond

    March 22, 2010 at 21:01

  89. Jammer om dit te se Con-Tester, maar manne soos Hans het nie bewyse nodig vir enige iets nie, want hulle het geloof. Soos elke ou weet, wat pig-shit vir breins het en bat-shit crazy is, geloof is al wat jy nodig het. Geloof, en die stemme wat jy in jou kop hoor.

    McBrolloks

    March 22, 2010 at 19:39

  90. Hans Matthysen skryf (Maart 22, 2010 om 6:19 nm.):

    Ek is nie ‘n voorstaander van die Katolieke nie.

    Ja, dis duidelik. Jy’s ’n voorstaander van die Matthysenoloë omdat jy oortuig is dat jy iets belangriks weet wat g’n ander ou weet nie. Pitie jy kan dit nie bewys nie…

    Con-Tester

    March 22, 2010 at 19:22

  91. Nine-Year-Old’s Abortion Outrages Brazil’s Catholic Church

    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1883598,00.html

    A Sequel to the Case of the Pregnant 9-Year Old

    http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1911495,00.html

    This is shocking to say the least. The pope excommunicates the mother and the doctors and the medical staff at the hospital, but the rapist father, who also raped her older handicapped sister for over a decade, on a regular basis, well, his sins has been absolved by the church. No excommunication for that monster. And no excommunication for any priests who commit similar crimes either. The church clearly does not object to rape.

    McBrolloks

    March 22, 2010 at 18:37

  92. Hans Matthysen, daar is baie meer as net een vrot appel.

    Die kerk weet al honderde jare wat aan gaan in hulle kerke, en wat hulle priesters doen met kindertjies, seuns en meisies.

    Hulle almal beskerm die “vrot” appels, so dit maak hulle almal net so skuldig. Ek sien jy weet maar min van hierdie situasies af.

    Die poes, sorry, pous, beskerm hierdie verkragters al vir jare en jare lank.

    Doen eers jou navorsing voordat jy hier sulke stink winde los.

    McBrolloks

    March 22, 2010 at 18:30

  93. Ex-nun tells of rape by African priest

    http://www.natcath.com/NCR_Online/archives/040601/040601d.htm

    McBrolloks

    March 22, 2010 at 18:28

  94. McBrolloks

    March 22, 2010 at 18:27

  95. You can’t make this shit up:

    “Priest raped us in an orgy, says nun”

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article718328.ece

    McBrolloks

    March 22, 2010 at 18:25

  96. As een in ‘n groep ‘n vrot appel is, beteken dit nie dat almal vrot is nie. Mens sou dink dat belese mense soos julle dit sou besef. Dit is goed dat die Pous nie die saak onder die mat probeer vee, soos wat dikwils in die verlede die geval was. Ek is nie ‘n voorstaander van die Katolieke nie.

    Hans Matthysen

    March 22, 2010 at 18:19

  97. Here is one article on some of the cruel things the RCC did in the last couple of years, with an official apology by the previous pope.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1671540.stm

    McBrolloks

    March 22, 2010 at 18:19

  98. There is a clear pattern here. Everywhere the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) operates, there is thousands of cases of child abuse, rapes and other atrocities committed by priests who work for them.

    These monsters rape children (boys and girls), they rape nuns and women who work for the church or are part of their congregation. Then they forced the nuns who got pregnant after getting raped repeatedly to have abortions. Some of the nuns even died from AIDS as a direct result of getting raped by priests.

    Now if this isn’t a clear and sickening pattern, I don’t know what is.

    What baffles me is that they get away with this everywhere, for centuries. Why isn’t there a government in the world who kicks these bastards out of their countries?

    They should get sued till they are out of business. They should be put on trail, starting with the Bishops, and sentenced to serve time in jail for their deeds.

    How can people believe in a god that allows his “employees” to do this?

    How can people still go to these churches? It is insane!

    McBrolloks

    March 22, 2010 at 18:17

  99. Savage wrote: “I wonder if the nuns will now have a “hard time” from the priests, seeing that the child-raping could become troublesome.”

    Trouble is, these sick bastards want children. I think the nuns were available (and probably are, and always have been🙂 ) for those who are into ‘normal’ sexual behaviour.

    To solve the problem, take the prospective victims away. It’s like they are being sacrificed (offered), for Priest’s sake !!

    I call for no more Choir Boys and Girls. One would think that would be the first step from the parents side.

    Thanks McBrolloks, I can see you have first hand info. I have always read this stuff, but it’s getting me down now. it’s just sick sick sick.

    I had a friend who came rushing in one morning to tell me her son was chosen to be a choir boy. That was 11 years ago. (I was aware of rumours going around and it astounded me then) She was ecstatic – hope he is fine. They were very open with their children, so I believe he is okay. (South African family, but Catholic – I always found that different).

    Is there a kind of a ‘heavenly reward’ if you were a choir boy or girl – or if you let your child be one? Maybe McBrolloks knows why they are rushing to be in this service to the church.

    screw-tin-eyes

    March 22, 2010 at 07:56

  100. Well said, McBrolloks.

    The Health Care Bill was passed by the US senate. The US Bishops, who vehemently opposed this bill, were opposed by their female colleagues and it seems to have affected the outcome.

    http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=35834&cb300=vocations

    I wonder if the nuns will now have a “hard time” from the priests, seeing that the child-raping could become troublesome.

    Savage

    March 22, 2010 at 06:55

  101. He-he. I am not a fan. Never knew a god damn thing about them, till I married an Irish girl. Then I started to notice all the evil they do around the world in the name of jesus. They really don’t give a shit about the poor. They only care about themselves. They do not care about children either. They have not excommunicated a single priest till today for raping children. Shows you. Nothing but a sick cult. Luckily my wife also sees this. It could have caused a lot of tension in my house every time I start ripping into these sick fucks with their pointy hats and funny costumes. But her whole family is still engulfed in this mystic church crap, and they could not say a bad thing about these sick cunts. Of course I am not the favorite son in law. Ha-ha!!!!!! My contempt comes out. Whenever someone is praising the church for something when I am in the room, I will rip into their statements and have my say. I have no respect for the church. None at all. And they don’t deserve any either. They are nothing but evil. Sick fucking cunts, is what I always call them. Ha-ha!

    McBrolloks

    March 21, 2010 at 21:37

  102. McBrolloks
    I take it the Papacy is not one of your favourite institutions.
    Thank you for your significant contributions.
    Discombobulating.
    The only word that comes to mind.
    Apart from “fuck ’em”.

    Nathan Bond

    March 21, 2010 at 21:28

  103. Irish sex abuse priest jailed.

    “A notorious Irish paedophile priest was jailed on Wednesday in a move that Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin said he hoped would bring solace to his victims.”

    He got 3 years. That’s it. Justice????????????

    http://www.news24.com/Content/World/News/1073/32c1c4406b3747b49f00a5e8be84f5c8/16-12-2009-10-22/Irish_sex_abuse_priest_jailed#

    McBrolloks

    March 21, 2010 at 21:23

  104. Pope John Paul II and Pius XII move closer to sainthood – One NAZI Pope helping another NAZI Pope, priceless

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8422474.stm

    McBrolloks

    March 21, 2010 at 21:21

  105. Cardinal Brady ‘let evil triumph’

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8570954.stm

    The swore victims to silence. No justice for the rapists or the victims.

    Lies for jesus.

    McBrolloks

    March 21, 2010 at 21:19

  106. International Probe Targets Secretive Catholic Group

    http://www.aolnews.com/world/article/secretive-catholic-order-founded-by-accused-pedophile-under-fire/19398262

    These guys went to town on the children, and their leader was one of the pope’s best friends

    McBrolloks

    March 21, 2010 at 21:18

  107. Bishop Denis Brennan asks parishioners for cash to help to pay abuse claims – You can’t make this shit up!!!!!!!

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article7048747.ece

    McBrolloks

    March 21, 2010 at 21:16

  108. Pope Benedict’s former diocese rehoused abuser priest, while Ratzinger was in charge there. Of course they say now he knew nothing about it.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8565294.stm

    McBrolloks

    March 21, 2010 at 21:15

  109. How paedophile priest was allowed to evade justice

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/8556659.stm

    McBrolloks

    March 21, 2010 at 21:14

  110. The pope’s entire career has the stench of evil about it.
    By Christopher Hitchens

    http://www.slate.com/id/2247861/pagenum/all/

    McBrolloks

    March 21, 2010 at 21:13

  111. Pity there is no hell for these bastards to go to when they die. I am sure there would have been a very special place there for them.

    McBrolloks

    March 21, 2010 at 21:11

  112. The pope wrote a letter. Could not give the apology himself. He ordered more investigations by the Vatican. He does not call for prosecutions by the law. He does not call for mandatory reporting to the law. He is still covering up for his pedofile employees. He is evil. Protecting child rapists for decades himself. He knew this was rife in his organisation for decades, and all he did was to cover it up. He was in charge of pope John Paul’s handling of the child abuse scandals that started to break across the world in the 1990’s and in the beginning of the 2000’s. He wrote an official secret document ordering and threatening all bishops with ex-communication if the reported any priest to the authorities who was accused of raping children.

    “It orders that ‘preliminary investigations’ into any claims of abuse should be sent to Ratzinger’s office, which has the option of referring them back to private tribunals in which the ‘functions of judge, promoter of justice, notary and legal representative can validly be performed for these cases only by priests’.

    “‘Cases of this kind are subject to the pontifical secret,’ Ratzinger’s letter concludes. Breaching the pontifical secret at any time while the 10-year jurisdiction order is operating carries penalties, including the threat of excommunication.”

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/24/children.childprotection

    This guy is a sick and evil bastard. He and his bishops should all be in jail right now. They all protected child rapists, and kept them in employment where they raped again and again and again, for decades, hundreds of thousands of time, countless children, boys and girls, and only a very small percentage of them ever saw the inside of a court to face any justice.

    In my book, it is the same as if Ratzinger and his bishops raped those children themselves.

    Evil cult.

    And people are so stupid, they still go to these churches and give money and send their children to these devils.

    Religion does poison everything.

    McBrolloks

    March 21, 2010 at 21:06

  113. Ek sal verkies om op my gewete te sweer, want ek voel al is ek ongelowig (en sweer op die Bybel sal vir my niks beteken nie) sal ek tog die regte ding wil doen.

    Ek dink ek het my gewete ontloof🙂

    screw-tin-eyes

    March 21, 2010 at 18:40

  114. screw-tin-eyes vra (Maart 21, 2010 om 1:44 nm.):

    Sweer mens nog op die Bybel in ‘n hof ??

    So vêr ek weet, ja, en mens word ook gevra of die eed bindend op jou gewete is ― m.a.w. jy word ook gevra of jy gelowig is. Die voorbarige absurditeit van die onderliggende veronderstellings is amper tasbaar.

    Con-Tester

    March 21, 2010 at 17:40

  115. Contester, jy is so reg. Dit is verbysterend hoe ons samelewing so stampvas verval het in hierdie godaanbiddende ‘mode’ en geloofs-georienteerde kerklike samelewing, sonder om te besef wat hulle doen. Dit word half verwag, reg ?

    Wat die ergste is, is dat al hierdie ‘slim’ mense die wonderlikste argumente het om dinge te regverdig, te rasionaliseer en veral die vermoë het om die blinde oog te gooi waar dit hulle pas.

    Die kuns om mense te bevark soos jy sê, is deur die kerke vervolmaak.

    Wat hierdie slim ouens soms nie het nie, of nie wil toepas nie, is blerrie ‘common sense’. Flip, hulle bybelstudie almal in blywende geloofbeswyming in met al die uitleggings van die Bybel en ander stront wat hulle opdis.

    Kan jy glo dat hier by ons het die kerk ‘n jaar lange Bybelstudie aangebied om ‘The Purpose Drive Life’ te bestudeer. S’Truth, ek sweer.

    Tog sien ek ‘n flou liggie. Minder jong mense gaan deesdae kerk toe. Of hulle, hulle spirituele lewe gou sal prysgee (geloof aan ‘n opperwese) weet mens nie. Dis ‘n begin as hulle nie meer weekliks (baie seker daagliks) die verslawende retoriek (indoktrenasie) van geloof hoor nie.

    Ek is bly vir die internet en die inligting wat beskikbaar is. Dis verbysterend as mens in ‘n boekwinkel instap en die rye, der rye boeke op die ‘religion’ rakke sien en dan so ‘n weggesteekte seksie met boeke oor die wetenskap. Dit sê baie duidelik waar die geld sit.

    Sweer mens nog op die Bybel in ‘n hof ??

    screw-tin-eyes

    March 21, 2010 at 13:44

  116. screw-tin-eyes skryf (Maart 21, 2010 om 7:11 vm.):

    Die feit dat dit nie end kry nie, wys op ‘n baie siek organisasie, nl. die bekakte RKK, wat geen bestaansreg het in die tyd wat niks, maar niks, meer onder die mat ingevee kan word nie.

    Die mense wat steeds die RKK aanhang het ook ‘n blerrie skroef los.

    Die graad van verwaandheid en eiegeregtigheid wat hierdie self-reguleerende bedryf hom toe-eien is en bly vir my verstommend.

    Op die een kant het ons ’n ingestelde religieuse inrigting soos die RKK wat mense by hulle neuse rondlei en wat aanhou bestaan omdat hulle dit reg gekry het deur bedrog om mense heeltemaal te mislei oor hulle kamstige waarde. Op die ander kant het ons ’n groot klomp Protestantse godiote wat almal dink hulle weet iets waardevols en in staat is daartoe om hulle eie geloof vir hulself uit te werk sonder enige kennis van hoe maklik dit is om jouself te bevark, en dan stry hulle onder mekaar oor wie nou dwaal. Ek self het al baie gewonder oor die vraag van watter een van die twee moontlikhede nou rêrig erger en meer gevaarlik is. Ek het nog nie ’n bevredegende antwoord uitgewerk nie, seker omdat dit – hoogs ironies – ’n morele vraag is. Intussentyd gooi ek al twee in dieselfde vrot gis drom.

    screw-tin-eyes skryf (Maart 21, 2010 om 7:11 vm.):

    Ek hoop dat die wet, wat hopelik bo die godsdiens blyk te wees, hierdie vergrypers sal prosedeer tot by die bloue duiwel in die hel waarin hulle dan nou glo.

    Ongelukkig is soiets heel onwaarskynlik om te gebeur. Daar’s ’n Amerikaanse gesegde oor die duiwel wat lui, “The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exist.” Dit kan aangepas word op die RKK – of enige geloof eintlik – soos volg: “The greatest trick the church ever pulled was convincing the world that it was indispensable.” Die RKK is só verskans in ’n groot hoeveelheid mense se kulture en lewens dat enige voorstel of aanklag dat die kerk gesamentlik ’n klomp gewetenlose sosiale parasiete is, sal gou-gou met skok en ongeloof deur daai mense ontken word, insluitend ons wetsinstellings.

    Con-Tester

    March 21, 2010 at 12:18

  117. En….Ek kan myself skaar hoor dink met al die luide veroordeling wat van al die ander Christelike denominasie en ander gelowe af kom oor die vergrype van die RKK.

    Is stilbly ‘n antwoord ???

    screw-tin-eyes

    March 21, 2010 at 08:05

  118. Daar is voorwaar sekere goed wat mens voor kan sê ‘jammer’ of ek het ‘berou’.

    Maar in hierdie geval, Nooooo. “It just doesn’t cut it’ en ek is seker dit is nie genoeg vir die slagoffers nie. Daar is net nie woorde of gebare wat hierdie vergrype kan heel nie. Hoe jammer moet mens wees vir so iets om hond haar af te maak.

    Dit is wat so erg is daaraan. Dis onherstelbaar, onvergeefbaar in my oë.

    Daar is nie ‘n jammer wat jammer genoeg is nie.

    Die feit dat dit nie end kry nie, wys op ‘n baie siek organisasie, nl. die bekakte RKK, wat geen bestaansreg het in die tyd wat niks, maar niks, meer onder die mat ingevee kan word nie.

    Hulle wys hulle ‘true colours’ en mense word steeds om die bos gelei. WTF Die mense wat steeds die RKK aanhang het ook ‘n blerrie skroef los.

    Die graad van verwaandheid en eiegeregtigheid wat hierdie self-reguleerende bedryf hom toe-eien is en bly vir my verstommend.

    Ek hoop dat die wet, wat hopelik bo die godsdiens blyk te wees, hierdie vergrypers sal prosedeer tot by die bloue duiwel in die hel waarin hulle dan nou glo.

    Om te dink dit is al ongeveer 20 jaar dat hierdie ‘openbarings’ (beskuldigings van molestering en vergrype) gemaak word, maar dit gaan steeds aan.

    Mense gaan steeds na die RKK en laat toe dat hulle kinders ‘altar boys en girls’ word. Dit wys hoe diep hierdie geloof se wortels sit. Voorwaar ‘n beforkte klomp.

    Ek wonder soms of hulle nie hierdie ‘altar boys en girls’ juis ingestel het vir hulle eie peverse doeleindes nie. Hoe sal ons ooit weet.

    Dis asof die RKK ‘n blerrie advertensiebord uit het wat sê: Word ‘n RKK vader – belangrike kwalifikasie: sekspervert.

    screw-tin-eyes

    March 21, 2010 at 07:11


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