Nathan Bond's TART Remarks

Religion: Respect? Ridicule!

The jape of the ape

with 28 comments

29 October 2008
“If there is a God, atheism must strike Him as less of an insult than religion.”
~ Edmond and Jules de Goncourt

15 October 2008
“The world holds two classes of men – intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence.”
~ Abu’l-Ala-Al-Ma’arri (Syrian poet, 973-1057)

11 October 2008
You see, the religious people – most of them – really think this planet is an experiment. That’s what their beliefs come down to. Some god or other is always fixing and poking, messing around with tradesmen’s wives, giving tablets on mountains, commanding you to mutilate your children, telling people what words they can say and what words they can’t say, making people feel guilty about enjoying themselves, and like that. Why can’t the gods let well enough alone? All this intervention speaks of incompetence. If God didn’t want Lot’s wife to look back, why didn’t he make her obedient, so she’d do what her husband told her? Or if he hadn’t made Lot such a shithead, maybe she would have listened to him more. If God is omnipotent and omniscient, why didn’t he start the universe out in the first place so it would come out the way he wants? Why’s he constantly repairing and complaining? No, there’s one thing the Bible makes clear: The Biblical God is a sloppy manufacturer. He’s not good at design, he’s not good at execution. He’d be out of business if there was any competition.
~ Sol Hadden (In Carl Sagan’s Contact)

7 October 2008
“Dear Lord, the gods have been good to me. As an offering, I present these milk and cookies. If you wish me to eat them instead, please give me no sign whatsoever.” (Short pause.) “Thy bidding will be done.” (Munch, munch, munch.)

~ Homer Simpson (The Simpsons TV show.)

October 3, 2008
“Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don’t want to know. Important things.”
~ Ned Flanders, the Simpson neighbor

October 1, 2008
“Our literature is a substitute for religion, and so is our religion.”
~ T.S. Eliot, 1888-1965, British poet (born in the United States) who won the Nobel prize for literature.

September 28, 2008
“Theology is the effort to explain the unknowable in terms of the not worth knowing.”
~ H. L. Mencken, 1880-1956, American editor, critic, biographer, lexicographer and satirist.

September 28, 2008
“What astonished him was that cats should have two holes cut in their skins at exactly the same places where their eyes were.”
~ Georg Christoph Lichtenberg, 1742-1799, German physicist, satirist and miscellaneous writer.

September 27, 2008
“Poetry and religion are the product of the smaller intestines.”
~ Pierre Jean Georges Cabanis, 1757-1808, French physician and philosophical writer. .

Written by Nathan Bond

September 27, 2008 at 09:26

28 Responses

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  1. Hanswors, you don’t know much of anything. You think you do but you don’t. Your whole approach is about believing that what you wish is true, is true. That much is abundantly clear.

    Con-Tester

    February 23, 2011 at 22:19

  2. Con-Tester, correction, “are equal”. I do not believe in wishing, I know that is the case.

    Hans Matthysen

    February 23, 2011 at 21:21

  3. Hanswors, you wish all of that was the case.

    Con-Tester

    February 20, 2011 at 22:46

  4. Leon, Christ is of God and about good will towards men.

    Hans Matthysen

    February 20, 2011 at 22:23

  5. Daan, ons vertrou dat Johannes teenoor ons op hierdie blog erkenning sal gee na 21 Mei 2011 en behoorlik met ons in gesprek tree.

    Hans Matthysen

    February 20, 2011 at 22:19

  6. Con-Tester, God and the Bible is a reality that you wish would not exist, yet it is a reality that will never cease to exist. The same goes for the after life as then all is equal and your status, in this life, has no bearing.

    Hans Matthysen

    February 20, 2011 at 22:13

  7. Ja…. ek weet darem nie. Onthou, Johannes is nie godsdienstig nie. Volgens hom is die kerk die hoer van Babilon en is reeds in 1988 deur God uitgespoeg.

    Fok!!! Ek en ou DW lag nou nog oor daai een.

    Daan Van der Merwe

    February 16, 2011 at 09:52

  8. Godsdiens verdom.

    Nathan Bond

    February 16, 2011 at 09:30

  9. Vergeet dit Nathan. Dit staan in Rapport dat Johannes nie meer werk nie en dat hy op sy spaargeld lewe.

    Ek is bevrees, hy gaan op die 22ste Mei nie eers geld hê vir ‘n fokken bottel Capenheimer nie.

    Daan Van der Merwe

    February 16, 2011 at 09:23

  10. Ek hoop net Coetzee onthou dat hy my ‘n besonderse wyn skuld – enige dag ná die wegraping.

    Nathan Bond

    February 16, 2011 at 07:50

  11. Ek het ‘n antwoord van Johannes Coetzee gekry!! Hy sê dit gaan goed met hom. Hy sê hy is net baie besig met finale voorbereidings.

    Ek het hom gevra hoekom neem hy nie meer hier deel nie. Sy antwoord is dat hy alles wat hy hier wou sê, hy klaar gesê het.

    Hy het my gevra om groete te stuur aan “Nathan & kie.”

    Daan Van der Merwe

    February 16, 2011 at 07:47

  12. Hanswors, you have never engaged with anything that I have brought to your attention about reality, including that it took you more than a year-and-a-half to frame that reply.

    It is still true that you haven’t actually addressed any of the points I made. It is still true that you have merely repeated the same nonsense yet again, albeit using slightly different words.

    And it is still true that, as always, it’s very revealing.

    Con-Tester

    February 15, 2011 at 22:58

  13. Con-Tester, you have never really tried to listen to anything I have explained because you have never proved what I have said, wrong. You have chosen not to debate any point in the Bible and have just resorted to mud slinging. Your main point is, that the Bible is a fairy tail and as you, being deaf to what I have said, appears to be the reason of your points not being addressed.

    Hans Matthysen

    February 15, 2011 at 22:43

  14. More likely a meteorite impact, Gliese 710 might facilitate this in the next one and a half million years, that or a gamma ray burst.

    Balanced Truths

    February 14, 2011 at 20:00

  15. “How can a sky God speak to Christian humans.Is God a Christian?”

    Through the Bible of course!! Dummy. And no. God is not a Christian.

    “How did dusty desert wanderers promote Asian dogma to the Western world?”

    By means of the Holy Roman Empire and it’s holy emperor, Constantine, the Ever Excalted and Defender of the Faith.

    “Man creates but his own gods”

    Rubbish!

    “This world will be destroyed by man’s Capitalistic christian origin greed and not its eastern philosophical need.”

    Bullshit!! This world will be destroyed after another 5 billion years when the sun will became a red giant.

    Daan Van der Merwe

    February 14, 2011 at 10:35

  16. How can a sky God speak to Christian humans.Is God a Christian?
    How did dusty desert wanderers promote Asian dogma to the Western world? Man creates but his own gods
    This world will be destroyed by man’s Capitalistic christian origin greed and not its eastern philosophical need.

    Leon

    February 12, 2011 at 12:17

  17. Hans, do’nt waste your time on the ”blind and deaf”
    let go, let GOD!
    MATTHEW 25 V31 IS COMING!

    007

    November 27, 2009 at 09:18

  18. But you haven’t actually addressed any of the points I made. You have merely repeated the same nonsense yet again, albeit using slightly different words, and added a transparent attempt at misdirection right at the end.

    As always, very revealing.

    Con-Tester

    June 16, 2009 at 12:07

  19. Con-Tester, you can only believe, what you understand. As you do not understand the Bible, I don’t expect you to believe. It is also clear to me, that because of your previous incorrect perception of the Christian religion, when you used to believe, has rendered you incapable of seeking the truth.
    I have on occasions, on this blog and others, shown other believers, things they cannot dispute. You must have encountered some of them and your question is therefore puzzling.

    Hans Matthysen

    June 15, 2009 at 21:16

  20. Hans Matthysen, what exactly also goes for me?

    If you mean that I, in your utterly baseless view, “have demonstrated over and over again, that [I] have no clue, what God and the Bible is about,” then the obvious response is that not only do you once again conveniently ignore my prior believer-status, but also that you have demonstrated over and over again that you have no clue what reasoning is about, and indeed that you have no evidence to support your ridiculous bible- and god contentions. I know quite well what you want your god and your bible to be about but reality (you know, that old spoilsport who separates truth from fantasy) refutes you.

    See, there are furthermore other bible believers who’ll tell you that it is you yourself who has absolutely no clue “what God and the Bible is about.” How do you answer them, pray tell?

    The one thing that puzzles me though is what exactly you aim to achieve by spouting almost verbatim the same unsustainable crap over and over and over because repetition isn’t somehow going to make it any less crap. Or is this what you call “jou man staan”?

    Con-Tester

    June 12, 2009 at 15:28

  21. Fredericke Adonis, God se wil is, dat geen siel verlore gaan en die ander dinge is maar hoe mense dink.
    God is liefde, waarheid, verstaanbaarheid (lig) ens. en is dus almagtig, alwetend, alomteenwoordig ens. maar blykbaar nie soos wat jy die persepsie van het.

    Hans Matthysen

    June 11, 2009 at 21:38

  22. Nathan, an ape would find an ape more interesting, lovable and less of an insult, than one who prefers intellect, as God is intellect.
    You have demonstrated over and over again, that you have no clue, what God and the Bible is about, so what you conclude about God or the Bible is irrelevant.
    Con-tester, the same also goes for you.

    Hans Matthysen

    June 11, 2009 at 21:31

  23. Die kwessie van “free moral agents”. Dit word dikwels aangevoer as dinge nie so lekker is of verloop nie. As dinge goed gaan is dit God se wil, as dit verkeerd gaan is dit die duiwel se wil of ten minste die mens se eie vrye keuse. Ek het vroeër dikwels gewonder oor die stelling dat God lank nog voor ek gebore is weet hoe my lewe gaan verloop. Hy weet wat my gedagtes was, is en gaan wees. Hy weet wanneer en hoe ek sal doodgaan. Om die waarheid te sê, God bepaal elke haar van my hoof wat sal val. Hy bepaal elke tree wat ek gee. Indien dit nie so is nie, tree ek teen Sy wil op – maar Hy het nog voor my bestaan dit geweet! Ek kan dit net nie snap nie! AS God my, of enige ander lewende wese geskape het, het Hy wragtig ‘n slegte joppie daarvan gemaak met al sy kennis en almagtigheid!
    (Hierdie probleempie van Almagtigheid, Alwetendheid, Alomteenwoordigheid en helaas, ALLES gebeur volgens SY wil, is lankal midde die kerk en tog blyk dit dat priesters dit elegant “sidestep” deur dit bloot te ignoreer asof dit nie ‘n inherente logika probleem daarstel nie)
    Bernie – ek sou graag jou siening daaroor hoor?

    Fredericke Adonis

    January 31, 2009 at 19:49

  24. Bernie wrote (31 Jan 09 at 10:06 am):

    We are messing up this world by disobedience, rebellion against Him and being wise in our own estimation.

    No, Bernie. We are messing up the world because there are too many people pretending to know better based on nothing more than feel-good conjecture and evidence-free tradition. Now I know that that doesn’t quite accord with your god’s Eternal Truth™® (℗ & © 325 A.D.*) and its facile ease, but it really is too bad that so many people insist on clinging unreasonably to the unreasonable instead of heeding the lessons that humanity has painstakingly winnowed from long experience – in particular, the lesson about how people are never worse than when they forsake their taste for evidence.

    _____________________
    * As amended 381, 431, 449, 451, 553, 680-681, 692, 754, 787, 869-870, 879-880, 1123, 1139, 1179, 1215, 1245, 1274, 1311-1312, 1341-1351, 1409, 1414-1418, 1423-1424, 1431-1445, 1512-1514, 1545-1563, 1672, 1870-1960, 1962-1965 A.D. et seq.

    Con-Tester

    January 31, 2009 at 17:38

  25. Bernie

    I would like you to read what I have to say about God’s love.

    Would you, Bernie, at the very least, prevent disaster you can reasonably foresee from striking your children? Even if they had been a disappointment to you; rejected you?

    “God” is an asshole. Worship that? Not on your life.

    Nathan Bond

    January 31, 2009 at 17:27

  26. Nathan, God created us free moral agents. He sent His Son Jesus to die for everyone (including you) all yoy have to do is receive His forgiveness and become born again He has not made us robots, but he does expect us to honour Him. He made us custodians of the earth, but gave us the Holy Spirit as our Teacher and our Guide.We are messing up this world by disobedience, rebellion against Him and being wise in our own estimation. God loves you and I pray that you will come to that realisation before its too late!

    Bernie

    January 31, 2009 at 10:06

  27. Mary

    If “God” is; if “God” cares, “God” should fix the mess – irrespective of who caused it, and end suffering. Looking at our world it is abundantly clear that “God” does not exist.

    Nathan Bond

    November 16, 2008 at 14:12

  28. To Sol Hadden
    It only grievs my heart to see so much ignorance displayed about God. Just to highlight two of the many redicoulus points mentioned about God:
    1) making people feel guilty about enjoying themselves
    Really? how come? Do you mean that God is wrong to want people to have refined manners. Here are some of the examples on what people enjoy to do: people enjoy killing, stealing,cheating, envying, setting traps for each other, f* (that’s different from love), hurting each other, and pursuing their lives like some kind of a base animal.
    God wants man to be happy the right way (read the Bible); i.e. without hurting himself or hurting others. Similarly, God gave us freedom but warned against abusing our freedom. What’s wrong about that? Anything in life has to have conditions organizing its usage, otherwise, we, as humans, will abuse it out of ignorance or out of our selfish pursuit of happiness at the expense of others and at the expense of what is ethical.

    2) If God is omnipotent and omniscient, why didn’t he start the universe out in the first place so it would come out the way he wants? Why’s he constantly repairing and complaining?
    so what’s the problem here? Are you angry that God gave us free will and wished if He had turned us into some mechanical creatures programmed to follow His inserted instrutions? or May be you are angry because God is trying to fix the mess we leave behind; to heal our wounds?!!! If you have a child who is messing p with his life, would you leave him mess up until he destroys himself, or would you help him out. Why is it easy to understand the paternal instinct that God placed within each one of us, while refuse to understand God’s paternity, of which our human paternity is copied?!!
    Why is God complaining? seriously!!! you don’t know why? If we, humans, complain that the world in going crazy, with crime rates up high, don’t you think that God has the right to complain and be troubled with our continous irresponsible and destructive mutilations we do to the world, to the meanings of our lives, to the beautiful meanings of love, etc.

    Mary

    November 16, 2008 at 13:28


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